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theplunger
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:46 pm    Post subject: Magic Jack Alternative Reply with quote

Well, I have trouble with my magic jack. So many classic symptoms that keep popping up, that I'm looking to find another service. Quite frankly it's embarrassing.

I'm looking for something cheap. It can be more that magic jack just not too much more. It has to be easy to set up as well. I got a invite to something called Google Voice. I don't know it that helps things? I just want something that works right and works even if my computer was off. That would be nice but it's not a major requirement. I hear good things about vontange; however, they are way too much.

Any good ideas?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a good starting point http://www.magicjacksupport.com/what-voip-alternative-do-you-recommend-t206.html there are tons of choices.
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theplunger
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, is Skype a good alternative to magic jack? I'm not educated in all the therms and ways of, Voip but it seems that I can get a sub for $2.95 per month and buy a special phone so I wouldn't have to dial the numbers on the computer. I get unlimited incoming and out going calls in/out of USA, right? Hidden fees or taxes? Could I have my computer off to get / give calls? Do I just plug the phone into my at&t gateway router?

BTW I upped my internet service to at&t to 6.0 speed (highest) so magic jack could work better. Well it didn't. I shouldn't have bought another year with them. Sad
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bitstopjoe
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or there is this................

https://www.tk6000.com/



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theplunger
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bitstopjoe wrote:
Or there is this................

https://www.tk6000.com/



Joe Sica


too new. and it looks like magic jack. lol I don't trust it. Where's the caller ID?

Can anyone else answer the skype questions? Please
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it does but it is ATA, no PC required. Read their forum.
I agree, it is to new to take seriously, for now...

I am pretty sure I read they have Caller ID..

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:40 pm    Post subject: Skype-ity-do-dah, Skype-ity day... Reply with quote

Good evening, theplunger (or should that be just plain plunger?)

theplunger wrote:
Well, is Skype a good alternative to magic jack? I'm not educated in all the therms and ways of, Voip but it seems that I can get a sub for $2.95 per month and buy a special phone so I wouldn't have to dial the numbers on the computer. I get unlimited incoming and out going calls in/out of USA, right? Hidden fees or taxes? Could I have my computer off to get / give calls? Do I just plug the phone into my at&t gateway router?


I recommend that you read my notes on using Skype as a replacement for magicJack. I've been using Skype in place of magicJack since January of this year and the service has functioned very well for me. Skype includes, at no cost, Skype-to-Skype calls worldwide. I have a basic Skype-Out (outbound calling) subscription, which is unlimited (up to 10,000 minutes/month) local, toll and long distance calling throughout the United States and Canada for an annual cost of USD29.50. You save two months' subscription rate when paying for an annual subscription. International calling to non-Skype telephones outside North America is not included. You will need to look at Skype's international rates to learn more about international calling to people unreachable on Skype.

A Skype-In, or DID, telephone number normally costs USD60.00/annum. However, users who subscribe to any Skype-Out service receive a 50% discount on a Skype-In telephone number bringing the annual cost to USD30.00. This means a full Skype service can be used for USD59.50/annum, which is what I paid for my first year of service.

I was able to re-use the thin client I had setup for magicJack and I purchased a D-Link DPH-50U from Amazon.com for USD7.99 after a USD10.00 rebate from D-Link. The service functions consistently well and Skype has performed better overall for me than magicJack. However, Skype is more costly than magicJack.

While Skype has functioned well for me over the past seven months, some disturbing news has surfaced that eBay, the owner of Skype, has encountered legal problems with their licensing rights to some of the core software in Skype. This development prevents me from unhesitantly recommending Skype as an alternative to magicJack. I can say that I will be watching the developments here in the coming months and that since the trial is set for sometime in June 2010 I am unlikely to renew my Skype service in January if I have an alternative that functions well for me.

theplunger wrote:
BTW I upped my internet service to at&t to 6.0 speed (highest) so magic jack could work better. Well it didn't. I shouldn't have bought another year with them. Sad


How long ago did you buy the additional year? You may be able to get a refund. Try a chat with their technical support and see if you can get the additional year refunded. I was able to get my additional five year subscription for USD59.95 completely refunded within 30 days of the purchase of the plan extension.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bitstopjoe wrote:
Or there is this................

https://www.tk6000.com/



Joe Sica


I just visited the site and it's new and my bet is they don't have own phone network for quality calls.
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bitstopjoe
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it is new, as was MJ a few years ago. Yes it needs to prove itself too, as did MJ. I am not one to be the first kid on the block with something new. I like to sit back, do some reading and keep an eye on it. Who knows it may be something which will be better than MJ. Time will tell.
AGAIN if anyone tries it for the 30 days please lets us know here how it is/was..

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bobvoip
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:11 pm    Post subject: TK6000 Reply with quote

I use Vonage, but, obviously, magicJack is cheaper. On the other hand, magicJack is great for long distance over seas calls from the US to people in exotic far away places.

I read the TK6000 site, and it seems that it is better than Vonage (cheaper for sure) and is a step up from magicJack. Has anyone gotten a TK6000 yet?

I posted something about comparing mj to vonage to tk6000 on vonage-forum.com and got banned.

Please do not ban me here. I own 3 magicjacks and love the product, but, the tk6000 seems wonderful.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think you will be banned here... I posted the orig topic on the TK6000 and I am still here...........................

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:18 pm    Post subject: Re: TK6000 Reply with quote

bobvoip wrote:

I posted something about comparing mj to vonage to tk6000 on vonage-forum.com and got banned.

Please do not ban me here. I own 3 magicjacks and love the product, but, the tk6000 seems wonderful.


The user that got banned here had posted the exact same message in 30 or 40 threads in a row. It was abuse and was treated as such.

There is no issue with having an opinion here about alternatives, but just follow the rules.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:04 pm    Post subject: Re: TK6000 Reply with quote

stroths wrote:
bobvoip wrote:

I posted something about comparing mj to vonage to tk6000 on vonage-forum.com and got banned.

Please do not ban me here. I own 3 magicjacks and love the product, but, the tk6000 seems wonderful.


The user that got banned here had posted the exact same message in 30 or 40 threads in a row. It was abuse and was treated as such.

There is no issue with having an opinion here about alternatives, but just follow the rules.


what about posting a link to an already made thread? Razz

http://www.magicjacksupport.com/the-pap2t-can-dial-direct-ip-addresses-to-ring-your-phone-t7193.html

Short of calling another Land Line, the ATA you already have could dial IP addresses directly, without even going thru your VoIP service, to another ATA and ring that phone for FREE.

The PAP2T can do it, I'm sure other ATA's can too.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I'm waiting to get something else, I hooked up the MJ into my laptop. Well I got a whole host of problems.

Just today:

Picked up the phone to see if there was a dial tone. None!!! Grrrr!
(I noticed no one was calling this morning.)

Make call hear slight echo. (sometimes I hear loud echo!) Grrrrrrrr!
(I deal with it.)

Someone calls, I don't hear them. Grrrrrr rrrrrr rrr!!!!
(this one is the most common. I really hate it.)

I call someone they don't hear me. GGGGRRrrrrr!!
(Rare but annoying)

Call drop! This one is one really sucks because they think I'm hanging up on them. Sad


Other services research:

Vontage = too much money

Skype = doesn't seem to be what I'm looking for.

Ooma = On there forum they seem to have some of the same problems as MJ, just less. Awesome features! But to get them $13 a month and $250 for the boxes and stripped service is too much.

TK6000 = not tested. and at $90! it better work!

I'm not sure what else it out there?
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Darkman90808
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm not sure what else it out there?


I know what you mean; this whole MJ thing has started me on a quest. I feel your pain about some of the heartburn experienced when it doesn't work right. I got my first one last year around February. It really was embarassing at times.

But a lot of it was my fault. That was back when you could spoof your calls so I was screwing around with settings and stuff. And the echo would drive people mad.

Right now, the two I have seem to be working quite well. <knock on wood> I've seen the posts for ooma and also seen something called phone genie but besides the $$$, I'm not willing to go through the learning curve with something else, just yet. And, as the eternal optimist, I think Dan has sold so many of the darned things, eventually the wrinkles will be ironed out.

I've read enough posts to think that if you can get your settings right, your MJ will work fine. Good luck!
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