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HolmanGT
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Thank Reply with quote

gilfres wrote:
Thank Stroths

I don't know if the usb size has to do anything, but looking the gui version I found out that PEtoUSB work only up to 2gb usb stick.

The gui version allow to create the usb installation with stick bigger than 2gb, I will try this version to see if this work.

Gilberto


You might also check that the stick is formated FAT32, I believe the biggest file a FAT system can handle is 2GB. I noticed this when a friend was doing an Acronis backup to a FAT system and Acronis would break his image into 2GB chunks.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:40 pm    Post subject: Magicjack support, tips, tricks, and hacks


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:22 pm    Post subject: Full XP on t5710 Reply with quote

I got the full xp professional installed in the Hp t5710. Now I have install the EFW and the other tweaks.

Thank you for the help. I used the gui version to create the usb flash stick installation.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Full XP on t5710 Reply with quote

gilfres wrote:
I got the full xp professional installed in the Hp t5710. Now I have install the EFW and the other tweaks.

Thank you for the help. I used the gui version to create the usb flash stick installation.


gilfres,

Persistence pays off, if it doesn't kill you first. Wink

Glad you got over the major hurtle.

Salute !!!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Full XP on t5710 Reply with quote

Does anyone have an nlite config file for slimming down xp pro that works with magicjack that they would be willing to post?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:42 pm    Post subject: FBWF vs EWF Reply with quote

I installed the FBWF in my thin client running xp professional, but I saw that a reduction in my flash drive in about 700 mb. When I disable FBWF I got the I got back the 700 mb.

Does any one why is happen?
Does any one know if this happen also using EWF?

mcrump001
Look for this link about slimming down xp.
http://www.bold-fortune.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=229

If you donate to this guy, you can download the batch files to slim xp.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello all, just wondering if anyone has tried windows flp on the thin client? wonder how well it runs on these type of systems.

ps.This forum has boomed since I last visited,good work!,peace out. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gilfres wrote:
I installed the FBWF in my thin client running xp professional, but I saw that a reduction in my flash drive in about 700 mb. When I disable FBWF I got the I got back the 700 mb.

Does any one why is happen?
Does any one know if this happen also using EWF?


I haven't seen anything like that with EWF.

curiousgeorge wrote:
Hello all, just wondering if anyone has tried windows flp on the thin client? wonder how well it runs on these type of systems.

ps.This forum has boomed since I last visited,good work!,peace out. Wink


Haven't tried it, but I see no reason it wouldn't work. A thin client is just a small form factor PC.
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acex008
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:39 am    Post subject: Win XP Pro booted from USB HD on TC? Reply with quote

What about booting windows off an external USB HDD and essentially eliminating the flash?

What I would like to do is upgrade the RAM in an HP T5710 to 1gb as mentioned, run XP Pro booted from my external USB HDD, and install a 5.1 PCI sound card in an HP T5710. Possible?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Win XP Pro booted from USB HD on TC? Reply with quote

acex008 wrote:
What about booting windows off an external USB HDD and essentially eliminating the flash?

What I would like to do is upgrade the RAM in an HP T5710 to 1gb as mentioned, run XP Pro booted from my external USB HDD, and install a 5.1 PCI sound card in an HP T5710. Possible?


I don't see why not as a thin client is just a small form factor PC. I know that people have run XP off a USB flash drive, so a hard drive wouldn't be any different.

What I would suggest though, is you get a 44 pin cable like described in my upgrade thread and hook a laptop drive to it. You'll get much better performance from that compared to a drive on the USB interface. You would need to run the IDE cable outside of the box and mount the drive somewhere. I looked into this once and it wouldn't be that hard. Just cut a slot in the side of the case so the IDE cable can come out. Drill 4 holes in the case to match where the screw holes are on the bottom of the hard drive. Screw the drive down, hook up the cable and you are set.

As for the sound card, you would need to buy the PCI expansion bay to add a PCI device on unless you go with a USB version of the sound card. If you do go with the expansion bay, you could probably fit the hard drive in it as it has some room even with a card in it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the feedback on this. I think I'm going to try and implement this.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep us posted and post some pics of your beast when its finished. Don't worry about implementing EWF with a hard drive install as its not needed.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now I'm thinking of running an 8GB CF card instead of a laptop drive with XP Pro. Not to get too far off topic but is there a laptop in car adaptor power brick that will work for this thin client? Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

acex008 wrote:
Now I'm thinking of running an 8GB CF card instead of a laptop drive with XP Pro. Not to get too far off topic but is there a laptop in car adaptor power brick that will work for this thin client? Thanks!


Building a carpc? I build one a while back, but not with one of these thin clients. Here's some power options for you.

http://tinyurl.com/2w3epgn
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, CarPC... Would this power it? ebay listing
I'm comparing the cost/performance of using a thin client or a full blown mini-ITX build...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

acex008 wrote:
Yup, CarPC... Would this power it? ebay listing
I'm comparing the cost/performance of using a thin client or a full blown mini-ITX build...


That one puts out too much power. The A/C powered one is 12Vdc/3.33A regulated output. You would have to match that with your adapter.

If you can afford a mini ITX build, I would go with that for a carpc over one of these. The CPU and graphics performance on these isn't high enough to do some of the video decoding you would want to do with a carpc. Look for a low power dual core solution.
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