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Anyone hear of this MJ like ( BUT ATA) device?????
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MJ Problem Solver
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like copyright infringement to me............

Evens sounds like the same person that does the Magic Jack commercials.

Notice how many time they say the word "magic"
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not necessarily you can use the word magic you just can't call it magic jack that's about it.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a really cool product, if it lives up to what it promises I will certainly be getting one when my year is up. Getting tired of having to run the computer 24/7 and the softphone. I also like the ability to plug it into a USB port if needed. They don't have very many area codes, that's not a problem for me, I'm in Canada so I wasn't expecting a local number. Love the ability to use one number on two units and most of the customer service experiences I've read about on the forum so far are very positive, prompt and impressive.

Looks like stroths is having some problems with this thing, though. That doesn't look good, if stroths can't get it working I don't have a hope in hell. Lol. From what I've read on the forum, it doesn't look like they have the best shipping (speed), and their 30 day trial starts at the shipping date.

Despite that, I still have some high hopes for this product. I hope it takes off really well because I really want to get away from MJ. I love my MJ, it can just be a pain in the butt sometimes.


MJ Problem Solver wrote:
Looks like copyright infringement to me............

Evens sounds like the same person that does the Magic Jack commercials.

Notice how many time they say the word "magic"


I wasn't aware MJ had any copyrights?
I know they have a patent pending, which as far as I know, this device does not infringe whatsoever.
Yeah, the commercials are very similar but I believe they are within their rights to do that.
MJ and NetTALK probably paid the same company to do their infomercials.

nightstryke wrote:
Not necessarily you can use the word magic you just can't call it magic jack that's about it.


I'd say that's accurate.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MJ Problem Solver wrote:
Looks like copyright infringement to me............

Evens sounds like the same person that does the Magic Jack commercials.

Notice how many time they say the word "magic"


I wasn't aware MJ had any copyrights?
I know they have a patent pending, which as far as I know, this device does not infringe whatsoever.
Yeah, the commercials are very similar but I believe they are within their rights to do that.
MJ and NetTALK probably paid the same company to do their infomercials.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ordered mine friday night. I think the shipping delay is partly due to them having to actually program the device. From what I read, when you get the device its ready to go... you plug it in, and then you get a confirmation call, and boom... your ready.

This thing does exactly what MJ should do...work without a stupid PC. I am also thinking since it uses a standard asterisk front end, it may be possible to do your own ATA.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BooDaddy wrote:
I ordered mine friday night. I think the shipping delay is partly due to them having to actually program the device. From what I read, when you get the device its ready to go... you plug it in, and then you get a confirmation call, and boom... your ready.

This thing does exactly what MJ should do...work without a stupid PC. I am also thinking since it uses a standard asterisk front end, it may be possible to do your own ATA.


It is, but I can't get call waiting to work ... everything else works great on the Linksys PAP2T-NA. The only reason I tested it was because I am waiting on them to fix the issue with the Panasonic DECT 6.0 handsets (it can't detect the DTMF).
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SWEET!! Good to hear you got it working on an ATA. Hopefully I will have mine soon so I can start playing with my ATA. I bet the call waiting is an issue on how they detect the hook pulse.

It looks like they have a little tweaking on their end to their configs to fix a few things... like the DTMF and hook pulse recognition
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

newtoncd wrote:

It is, but I can't get call waiting to work ... everything else works great on the Linksys PAP2T-NA. The only reason I tested it was because I am waiting on them to fix the issue with the Panasonic DECT 6.0 handsets (it can't detect the DTMF).


newtoncd, How is the call quality with ATA compared to nettalk device ?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MJ Problem Solver wrote:
Looks like copyright infringement to me............

Evens sounds like the same person that does the Magic Jack commercials.

Notice how many time they say the word "magic"


Looks like a downright copycat of MJ - with a repackaging of the dongle with ATA functionality - adding a processor to what was only a flash drive. Here's a quote from the NT FAQ - does this sound familiar? I was hoping that they would do *real* 3-way calling where I could initiate the call but its amazing how both MJ and NTdo it the same way isn't it?

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Does TK6000 support three-way calling?
Article YES.

TK6000 supports 3-Way Conference Calling for incoming calls.

How 3-Way Conference Calling Works:
1. Have both parties call you.
2. With one party on the line, and one on hold (using call waiting), simply press # # to start a three-way call.
3. Press # * to end the three-way call.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again, this doesn't constitute copyright infringement. Please read up on US copyright and patent law.

While I do agree, thats a janky way to do 3 way calling, it would be simple for them to fix. I bet you would have a better chance of netTALK fixing it than you would magicJack.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got my tk6000 but how do I get the sip info?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

has anyone did a network capture to see what sip proxies your calls are hitting. I wonder who is the company behind this? I know MJ uses level 3 and XO to complete most of their calls. I would be interested to know who does their long haul routing
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those of you who have purchased this device, can you let us know how the caller ID works? I want to backfeed the phone line into my home so that all phones in the house can make and receive calls. MJ kind of does this, but because MJ doesn't put off enough voltage, the other phones in my house don't actually ring when a call comes in, nor does caller ID work on them. But they can each be used to place calls.

Hopefully this new device will work better.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

voipmailme wrote:
newtoncd wrote:

It is, but I can't get call waiting to work ... everything else works great on the Linksys PAP2T-NA. The only reason I tested it was because I am waiting on them to fix the issue with the Panasonic DECT 6.0 handsets (it can't detect the DTMF).


newtoncd, How is the call quality with ATA compared to nettalk device ?



I would say the device is a bit better than the ATA, however, because I can't get call waiting to work on the ATA, it is a non-starter.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dan wrote:
has anyone did a network capture to see what sip proxies your calls are hitting. I wonder who is the company behind this? I know MJ uses level 3 and XO to complete most of their calls. I would be interested to know who does their long haul routing



My tracert goes from Qwest (my provider) to sprinlink.net to their IP.
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