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snafu2
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:01 pm    Post subject: Inbound CID ...Possible fix. Reply with quote

For what it's worth:

My situation may be unique, but most of the time my inbound CID would not display on my various phones (five mixed Uniden models) whole house setup, but did show correctly on the softphone.

I put a 100k ohm resister across the line and now all work great.
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Poo619
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good to know. For us less intelligent Smile would you mind explaining what that does and how you got the idea to do it
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snafu2
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My observations. With one phone only, CID worked. As soon as I hooked up the whole house it would not. So I disconnected all house phones leaving just the one phone (located at the MJ) and the in-house wiring connected to MJ. Still no go.

I checked the wiring for resistance and foreign voltage and all looked good. My guess was that the capacitance across the line was the culprit...if so, this may be a design error in the MJ....although I do have long runs of house phone cable.

I started at one meg ohm and got an improvement and kept lowering resistance until I got off-hook. . Got off-hook condition at about 20k as I recall...Settled at 100k.

Just a tinkerer looking for an easy cure.... engineer I am not.
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prackjack
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:17 am    Post subject: layman's terms Reply with quote

Sounds like something I might need, but could you spell it out in layman's terms as far as "How To" physically integrate the resistor?

Thx
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snafu2
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use a phone cable with modular RJ-11 connectors (standard phone plug) and cut off a piece a few inches from one end. Strip out the red and green wires and connect one end of resister to the red and the other end of resistor to the green. If you have only two wires, or ones that are not color coded, use them. Get a modular phone coupler, one that converts a single modular jack into two modular jacks.

Plug the resistor cable into one jack and connect the MJ to the other. Plug the coupler into your wall jack and that should do it. If you have a telephone interface box, it will have screws so you could put the resistor in it. I would make sure any connections to the outside world are unplugged.

I hope this isn't oversimplified, but better more than less info....Good luck.
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prackjack
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snafu2 -- That's just the right level for me... Off to Radioshack, will report back on my experience.

Thx
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I went out and bought some resistors and then I remembered I had a powered USB hub sitting downstairs. I tried that first and voila, it worked. Caller ID is now working and the calls also seem to be a bit clearer (that part could be my imagination). I'll keep the resistors on hand for the next project Smile
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LikeMagic
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My MJ does not display incoming CID for my cordless phone but displays CID fine on the PC. I may have to try the 100K resistor trick. I currently rely on the PC display to know who's calling. I want to run MJ as a service so working CID on the phone is important to me.

Anyone knows if MJ has an official fix for this bug?

BTW, I connected my MJ directly to my PC's USB, no CID on phone. Tried to connect it to the powered USB hub, still no dice! And that's with only one cordless phone hooked up directly to the MJ.
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Emdev2
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LikeMagic wrote:
My MJ does not display incoming CID for my cordless phone but displays CID fine on the PC. I may have to try the 100K resistor trick. I currently rely on the PC display to know who's calling. I want to run MJ as a service so working CID on the phone is important to me.

Anyone knows if MJ has an official fix for this bug?

BTW, I connected my MJ directly to my PC's USB, no CID on phone. Tried to connect it to the powered USB hub, still no dice! And that's with only one cordless phone hooked up directly to the MJ.


I have a wierd thing happen to me with caller ID. I tried to use a dedicated Gateway Laptop for my first atempt. It was a P-III 750Mhz with 256meg Ram and 20 Gig harddrive, USB 1.1, Fresh install of Windows XP Pro. I loaded everything fine and was making calls on it. Seemed to work ok. Then with incomming calls I noticed that the caller ID wasn't showing up on the cordless phone but was showing up on the softphone. I tried a different corded phone, I tried a different USB port on the laptop, I tried a power usb hub, I even tried a Pcmcia usb 2.0 card in the machine no dice. I then unplugged the laptop charger from the laptop and just then the phone rang and the caller ID came up. So I said cool it fixed itself. Then I plug the AC Adapter back in and call the phone, caller ID doesn't show up agin. Uplug the adapter, caller ID works. I tried different outlets. Tired plugging in the laptop to a surge protector and a UPS thinking it might be some kind of AC noise in the line. Same result no CID. So I thought it was the laptop itself. I had another laptop a Dell. This one was a P-III 1.0Ghz, 512meg Ram, 20Gig Harddrive, Windows Xp Pro, USB 1.1. I get the exact same results with this laptop. Anybody have this experience or any insite on this? I'm stumped. For my last atempt I moved over to a regular computer with similar specs as the Dell laptop and everything works fine. Any idea's on this?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emdev2 wrote:

I then unplugged the laptop charger from the laptop and just then the phone rang and the caller ID came up. So I said cool it fixed itself. Then I plug the AC Adapter back in and call the phone, caller ID doesn't show up agin. Uplug the adapter, caller ID works. I thought it was the laptop itself. I had another laptop a Dell. I get the exact same results with this laptop. Anybody have this experience or any insite on this? I'm stumped.


You're right - that is weird! Was it the same person calling you each time?
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snafu2
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey emdev2, My setup just about mirrors yours. Also noticed the power adapter affecting cid intermittently. The resistor fix is still working great for me.
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LikeMagic
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just installed a 100K resistor trick and it works, my incoming CID is now displayed after the first ring. Snafu2, ya DA man Laughing !! Thanks for the tip.

Hopefully, MagicJack is reading this forum to implement this fix for the revised MJ hardware.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

snafu2 wrote:
I hope this isn't oversimplified, but better more than less info....Good luck.

Nah - you did a great job explaining it. Had my 10 year daughter read it, and she understood what too do.
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LikeMagic
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the picture of my 100K resistor mod in a standard phone jack coupler (MagicJack <---> Coupler <---> Telephone):



Note: if you perform this mod, don't forget to use electrical tape to cover the resistor's exposed wires to prevent short Smile
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Ponithog
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Likemagic

Does it matter the type of 100K resistor, I am looking at 1/4 or 1/2 watt choices and I wanted to make sure I get the correct one.

Does it make a difference?

Thanks


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