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Darkman90808 · Dan Should Pay Me Joined: 27 Feb 2008 Posts: 527

GuyOnTheAir... maybe I wasn't clear about the email thing, but you can't place the widget in your email signature, for instance, so recipients could click and call. I do have the widget on my blog, so the work around is to put a hyperlink in the email. Otherwise, it can't be done directly.

TexGuy · Apprentice Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 20

I'm going to join the TK6000 family today.........

micheal · MagicJack User Joined: 29 Jun 2009 Posts: 34

Sounds interesting, but how to get a local phone number for this nettalk T6000?

Anybody advice?

Can I port my MJ number over?

newtoncd

bass420 · Newbie Joined: 27 Feb 2009 Posts: 3

how does the net talk (tk6000) working?

newtoncd · Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:07 pm Post subject:

MJ User · Newbie Joined: 27 Feb 2009 Posts: 6

Is it possible to use the router connection when at home and the USB connection when traveling or do you have to commit to only one type of connection?

newtoncd · Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:38 pm Post subject:

mohoelx · Apprentice Joined: 08 Apr 2008 Posts: 23

I'll post my experience in 7 - 10 days, assuming they deliver on time.... Very Happy

I have a deal where I've been using MJ for a second line as I work from home, but my employer recently updated expectations and one is no un-authorized soft-phone on my work computer.... I *could* move MJ to my home computer and keep going, but then I would still have a problem when I visit my kids or parents. With TK, I can take it with me and still not have a soft-phone on the laptop.

So, if it works well, I may be putting my MJ on the shelf....since my dear wife will NOT let us get rid of our home number we've had for 20 years, and neither MJ nor TK will be up for 'porting' Bell POTS numbers in either of their lifetimes, I'm sure! Laughing

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gg · Newbie Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Posts: 3

having trouble with understanding if it is free to all us and can. or just other tk6000 devices can someone clarify this for me

voipmailme · Apprentice Joined: 12 Aug 2009 Posts: 11

gg · Newbie Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Posts: 3

Thank you for the reply i thought that was what it was but thought I had read that they were charging .01 or .02 a min. free is free. I had one of the orginal MJ and it was great then i erased it during a virus removal by aaccident. This was before they had rma so through it in the trash. I have two of the newer ones that work great but want to give this a try as well. Thanks again

micheal · MagicJack User Joined: 29 Jun 2009 Posts: 34

Do I have to dial 1 always in front of # for tk6000?

Plus, how do I change my username from default?

UPdownLoAD · Apprentice Joined: 21 Sep 2008 Posts: 15

The following is my own opinion, and is not biased. YMMV.

The Ordering Process
I finally took the plunge on Aug 28th after watching and reading the forums for about a month and decided to order. At the time of ordering, the offer was 4 payments $24.95 + shipping. When getting to the second screen, they offered me free shipping if I was willing to pay in full now. I decided against this, but changed my mind at the end of the order and could not go back to accept the free shipping offer. AFAIK, this process has been changed after leaving appropriate feedback of the ordering process.

The second screen offered me another TK6000 with the same number for only $79.99 + s/h. Sure, why not! Next screen offered me another TK6000 with free shipping for a friend and no discount, which I passed on, and the final screen offered a 5 year warranty on all devices I ordered today for only $19.95 vs the 1 year standard warranty. Since I was purchasing 2 devices, that's about 10% of the product price for 5 years of coverage which I felt was a good value, so I purchased that, too.

Shipping/Tracking/Billing
A received an e-mail almost immediately confirming my order. At the bottom of the order, it stated "Please allow 7-14 business days for delivery.
Your credit card will not be charged until your order is shipped," so I was very impressed/surprised when on Sept 1 I saw a charge on my credit card from Nettalk! Unfortunately, I didn't get a tracking number until the 4th and it didn't actually leave until Sept 9th. However, I received my package only 2 days later on Sept 11th, so overall, it was within the expected time frame.

For the stalkers out there, here's my tracking info: http://www.fedex.com/Tracking?&tracknumbers=9102185456356122835686

Unboxing
For just spending $19.90 on shipping/handling, I expected to see a lot of bubble wrap inside the box. But when I opened the box, the 2 TK6000 kits I ordered were just sitting back-to-back with an invoice underneath. Luckily, the TK6000s are packaged well, and the box did fit them well, so the likelihood of damage was very minimal (see pic). Still, I would have felt better if it was shipped more protected.

At first glance, the TK6000 looks/feels very similar to a MagicJack. In fact, I had to do a little Googling because one of the components used, the Ethernet port, CLEARLY shows "MagJack" on it. Google told me that it's just the name of a part, and in no way is associated with MagicJack. I do, however, recommend that netTALK covers this up or uses a different manufacturer to avoid confusion and conspiracy theories.....

As stated above, there was very little opportunity for the TK6000 to be damaged in shipping so I was disappointed to see the exact same scratches/impact marks on the side where the MINI USB goes as well as a scuff on the top between the phone and Ethernet jacks on both TK6000s. This clearly came from assembly, especially since they were in the same spots (see pics). Maybe assembling in the USA isn't a good idea?

Underneath the physical device is the login information on a card to login to your netTALK account. You will need to login to put your customer information in for E911 to work. You also need this information if you want to change your number (or put one on there), enable call forwarding, etc.

Let's Try It....
The unique selling points of the TK6000 are it's ready to go out of the box and no PC is needed. So I plugged in the Ethernet cable, the phone, and then the power. Less than 20 seconds, and my phone rang indicating that it was ready to go. Or so I thought. Busy signal.

I played with both devices using other phones, connections, and PCs, and other than the first time, the phone never rang again to indicate it was ready to go. I even plugged directly into my modem, using both a patch cable and the included cable and no-go. I logged into my account, and did not see a phone number assigned to my TK6000s, so I put in a trouble ticket on Friday night and assumed the problem at this point was that no phone number was assigned to my TK6000s.

Next day, Saturday, I decided to visit my parents and I took my TK6000s over to show them, along with my phone. Just for grins, I plugged it in to my parents router and it rang in less than 20 seconds. Hmmmm. Let's make a call. Worked perfectly, but was showing my card number as the phone number. Maybe they worked on my ticket?

I went back home, plugged in, nothing. A thought then occurred to me about putting my modem into bridge mode; I have a SlingBox, and when working with Embarq (my DSL provider) support, it needed to be put into bridge mode to work. I don't remember why, but I switched out of bridge mode awhile back, so I figured what-the-hey. BINGO! Within 20 seconds of me putting the modem into bridge mode, I was able to make calls.

Local Number
Monday, I put in a ticket to get a phone number assigned and get a local number. Within 2 hours, I had a temporary number so I could make/receive calls, and within a total of 4 hours, I had a local number!

Here's where it gets a bit confusing- I purchased 2 TK6000s so I could have the same number. Tech support has it setup when I receive a call, both devices ring (similar to using Google Voice), but as far as OUTGOING calls, only 1 will show up on caller ID with my local number; it shows my card number. I may just need to update my ticket or this may be as good as it gets, but technically, I do not have the same number on the second device because NO number is on it.

So how does it work already?!
Before I get into great detail, let me explain my reason for purchasing- I purchased a MagicJack a year ago because I found the only reason I was using my home phone was for Dish Network's requirement that I have a phone line plugged in. So last Sept, I cut the landline, purchased a MagicJack and a thin client (a low-power using PC), and was dandy. But MagicJack changed something around last Nov/Dec, and I have been unable to dial out to Dish Network for it's status checks and am getting charged $5/mo extra that Dish is unwilling to remove.

So that said, I was excited when I saw a device that didn't require me to have a dedicated PC running 24/7 to be used. And since others posted that they could fax using the TK6000 whereas they couldn't with MagicJack, I figured this would work perfectly.

AND I WAS RIGHT! It works perfectly with Dish Network's status updates. I also tried it to view/pay bill, and that too worked great.

So since my primary reason to own the TK6000 works, I decided to use both the TK6000 and the MagicJack for exactly what they were meant for- calling. I called my mom on my cell phone to explain to her what I was doing, and told her I wanted opinions of the quality of calls.

First up was the MagicJack in Aircard/3G mode. It worked, but was very quiet and just didn't have a high voice quality. There was no garbling, distortions, or delays.

Next was the MagicJack in regular mode. Worked fine, sounded like a cellphone call, but at times were echoing/lagging.

Finally, it was time for the TK6000. The quality was EXCELLENT and sounded like a static-free landline. I told my mom I've never talked to her on the phone so clearly before, and she agreed. We kept talking, and she said I garbled a bit like Max Headroom (go Google him, youngins). It was consistently random, happening about every 30 seconds or so. It may have been related to my network; to the best of my knowledge, nothing else was using my internet connection at the time of testing, but I did have echoing/lagging with MagicJack as well and I used that perfectly before when traveling.

I was also able to plug a 2 phone splitter into the TK6000 and it worked, but the MagicJack doesn't like it and would only ring/power 1 phone at a time.

Overall.....
Before I give my overall opinion and comparisons, I do want to mention that a year ago, I purchased my MagicJack and though it was easy to setup out of the box to create an account and pick an area code, it wouldn't work. There was no tech support number to call, the web chat was scripted and treated me like I had never used a PC before. The only way I was able to figure out what was the problem and how to fix it was to join the unsupported MagicJack Support forums, which has NO association with MagicJack. After finding out that all I needed done was them to refresh my account at their end, it took an hour and a half of web chat before I could get anyone to break their script of things to have me try and actually listen to my "suggestion" on getting it to work.

That said above, it's very refreshing to have a number to call for support (though I didn't use it), a forum provided by netTALK that is allowing good, bad, and ugly comments to be posted without being removed and that are actually listening and implementing suggestions that are posted, and a very responsive trouble-ticket support.

Pros of TK6000 (at least at time of review):
-No PC required, so saves power
-No additional yearly fees (unlimited forever)
-Able to be used for faxing, dial-up VPN/ISPs, and satellite providers
-VERY clear calls
-No time limit of calls
-800 support number
-Company-supported forums for support and suggestions
-Responsive tech support
-Able to plug in more than one phone/device at the same time
-Free to change number/area code
-Promising to be able to port number to TK6000 in the future

Cons of TK6000 (at least at time of review):
-Upfront cost
-Unknown company
-You will more-than-likely need to put in a support ticket to get a local number
-No weekend tech support
-You may have computability issues with modem/router

Pros of MagicJack (at least at time of review):
-Minimal investment with $19.99/year service renewal (or cheaper)
-Works with any PC connected to the internet that doesn't have restricted privileges
-More-than-likely will work without needing to change your modem/router settings
-Softphone on PC can allow you to make/receive calls using speaker and mic w/o a phone
-Easy-to-use login page to maintenance such as call forwarding or changing your number
-Aircard/dialup connection option so you can still use with a slower internet connection
-Recognition- it's now available at CVS, Best Buy, etc

Cons of MagicJack (at least at time of review):
-MUST have PC running to be used
-If you make a call, the softphone pops up on the PC and will interrupt the PC user
-Little-to-no actual support, but they can help you learn how to plug it in and open ports
-Will cost more in the long run due to renewal fees and PC power consumption
-No option of extended warranty
-Fragile protruding USB port that can be bent or damaged easily
-If you break your device, you cannot transfer your number
-No option to port your number
-Not able to be used for faxing, dial-up VPN/ISPs, and satellite providers
-Limited length of calls (2hrs)

Final thoughts....
IMHO, the netTALK is a far superior device compared to the MagicJack. But at the time of review, MagicJack does work right out of the box and requires little-to-no technical knowledge to use, whereas I did not experience the same simplicity with the TK6000. It appears that simplicity is the long-term goal of the netTALK, especially since it doesn't even require a PC to be used, but I right now I had to work to get it working.

I would recommend that you be a MagicJack owner before you purchase the TK6000 because you may not appreciate all of the benefits that the TK6000 has to offer until you're frustrated with the MagicJack, such as having to have a PC on to use it, having to have admin rights on the PC to install the software, or needing to fax.

Now that the TK6000 is working in my home, it's not going to be unplugged. But my concern is if I travel with my other device, is it going to work when I get to my hotel or will I have to ask the hotel manager to change settings on their modem/router? For that reason, I think my second device will be sold to a friend or returned, and the MagicJack will be kept for traveling.